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Info-Mac Digest             Wed, 28 Jun 00       Volume 17 : Issue 105

Today's Topics:

      [*] TidBITS#536/26-Jun-00
      [A] iMac won't stay shutdown
      CD firmware update
      Info-Mac Digest V17 #104
      Mac OS 7.6 screen shot
      Network time server

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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:00:00 -0700
From: TidBITS Editors <editors@tidbits.com>
To: digest@info-mac.org, Mac-L@clio.lyris.net, evangelist@sempermac.com
Subject: [*] TidBITS#536/26-Jun-00

TidBITS#536/26-Jun-00

  What happens when well-known open source proponent Eric Raymond
  meets 300 diehard Mac programmers at the annual MacHack developers
  conference: a butting of the heads or a meeting of the minds? Also
  this week, Ron Risley relates his experiences in turning a
  battered PowerBook into a powerful Internet router and server.
  Finally, the Microsoft antitrust trial might go to the Supreme
  Court, and we report which MP3 players are most popular.

Topics:
    MailBITS/26-Jun-00
    Open Source and the Macintosh
    Serving the Internet from a PowerBook 5300

<http://www.tidbits.com/tb-issues/TidBITS-536.html>
<ftp://ftp.tidbits.com/issues/2000/TidBITS#536_26-Jun-00.etx>

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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:28:46 -0800
From: "Kee Nethery, Kagi CEO" <kee@kagi.com>
To: digest@info-mac.org
Subject: [A] iMac won't stay shutdown

My thanks to everyone who replied; John Hibbert, RobD, Bull Durham, Kirk
McMichael, Lyle Phillips, mcardeir, Scott Beach, abrody, and Rik
Steuperaert.

Original Question:

>We have one iMac that when you select shutdown, it restarts immediately
>We have lots of iMacs that do stay shutdown, only this one seems to have
>a strong enough will to live that it survives shutdown. When I set the
>Energy Control Panel to shutdown after a period of inactivity, it
>restarts immediately.
>
>It has an ADB keyboard and ADB mouse with the ABD to USB adapter. We have
>a similar setup on other iMacs and they do shutdown and stay shutdown.

Solution:

The ABD to USB Adapter with ADB keyboard attached causes the iMac to detect
a power-on signal and restart whenever it is shutdown. Replacing the
keyboard and/or adapter will solve the problem. Unplugging that assembly
allowed it to stay shutdown.

I liked John's suggestion the best. When it happened to him he decided it's
not a bug, it's a feature, and he turned that iMac into a server that
should never be shutdown. :-)

An alternative (didn't apply to us) is that a connector cable inside the
iMac could have been damaged during a RAM install causing a short which
would always restart the mac.

Another alternative (again not our situation) was a USB Zip Drive that was
causing the restart.

Thanks to everyone,
Kee Nethery

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:19:03 +1000
From: Geoffrey Heard <gheard@surf.net.au>
To: Info-mac <digest@info-mac.org>
Subject: CD firmware update

At 11:51 AM -0400 27/6/00, abrody@smart.net wrote:
>Geoff,
>In response to your comp.sys.mac.digest question:
>The only firmware update for the beige G3s is the one for the modem 
>that comes on some of them.   If you see another update, it is 
>either for the Blue and White G3, or the Powerbook G3.   Be careful 
>to read the readme as to which G3 is supported.   If it doesn't say, 
>then don't assume it was made for your machine.   Take note the Blue 
>and White G3 was released November 1998.  Any firmware update 
>released after that date should be presumed for the Blue and White.

Thanks Alan. Since the CD firmware update I am looking at for G3 is 
dated 3 April 1999, then it must be for B&W, not beige.

-- 
cheers, geoff

Geoffrey Heard - GH&A Public Relations
Demand Indonesia return the 100,000 East Timorese held in limbo in 
West Timor. <http://www.etan.org/news/2000a/deleg3.htm>
Demand Indonesia pay reparations to East Timor. 
<http://www.web.amnesty.org/web/ar2000web.nsf/countries/a8b2dcbe3c6cac35802568f200552930?OpenDocument> 

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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:19:46 +1000
From: Geoffrey Heard <gheard@surf.net.au>
To: digest@info-mac.org
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V17 #104

At 12:30 PM -0400 26/6/00, The Info-Mac Network wrote:
>Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:52:51 -0500
>From: Audria Hamiliton <ahamil7916@iafalls.com> (by way of Hugh Lewis)
>To: digest@info-mac.org
>Subject: Help!
>
>I have a MAXPOWR G3 computer that has a jaz and zip drive and a very
>high quality video card installed plus Photo shop 5.5,Adobe Premiere
>4.1, Targa 1000.  It is also only OS8.  I would like to install Norton
>Utilities but have to upgrade to at least 8.5 and cannot seem to find a
>cd with that on..I am wondering what would happen to all my software if
>I just went to OS9? There are some things goofed up so thought Norton
>would help.  It is very frustrating owning a Mac in Iowa as it is very
>difficult getting any kind of help.  Thanks for any advice you could
>give me. Audria Hamilton

Audria

My experience on a G3 266 is that OS9.0.4 is significantly superior 
to OS8. Old programs run just like new ones except, sadly, for 
Cricket Draw III. MSWeird 5.1 won't install ... but it worked fine 
provided it was already on the HD or installed elsewhere and simply 
brought over in its folder and dumped on the HD.

-- 
cheers, geoff

Geoffrey Heard - GH&A Public Relations
Demand Indonesia return the 100,000 East Timorese held in limbo in 
West Timor. <http://www.etan.org/news/2000a/deleg3.htm>
Demand Indonesia pay reparations to East Timor. 
<http://www.web.amnesty.org/web/ar2000web.nsf/countries/a8b2dcbe3c6cac35802568f200552930?OpenDocument> 

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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:14:40 EDT
From: Xerox860@aol.com
To: digest@info-mac.org
Subject: Mac OS 7.6 screen shot

Ladies and Gentlemen:

>I have a performa 6400, which when loaded with 7.5.3, does fine with taking a

>picture of the screen, Shift + Command + 3. This puts the picture on the hard

>disk, with a label "Picture l" and so on, as many pictures as desired.

>Now my daughter  recently loaded OS 7.6, and of course, the screen shot 
doesn't work  

any more. I get a copy of the screen on the 'clipboard', but can't transfer

>this material from the clipboard to any other file, such as a word processor,

>printer, etc., and frankly I miss the Shift + Command + 3 combo from OS

>7.5.3. Any ideas?

>Thanks ahead of time.
Sincerely, Ken Lehmann, Fairfield, CT  06432

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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:26:00 -0700
From: julian kaye <juliankaye@kagi.com>
To: digest@info-mac.org
Subject: Network time server

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In the last month or so the Apple NTS at Apple Americas 
(time.apple.com) has gone down three times, this causes a problem on 
our unattended servers (OS 8.6) as a modal dialog box informing about 
the lost connection stops or hinders other application processes from 
continuing to run. Besides installing our own time server are there 
any workarounds using the existing system software?
The system clocks need to be synchronized with a time server at least 
every 24 hours.
please cc response to expert@freethink.org
\thanks
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In the last month or so the Apple NTS at Apple Americas
(time.apple.com) has gone down three times, this causes a problem on
our unattended servers (OS 8.6) as a modal dialog box informing about
the lost connection stops or hinders other application processes from
continuing to run. Besides installing our own time server are there
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