Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #90 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Fri, 17 Apr 98 Volume 16 : Issue 90 Today's Topics: Re-seeking LaserWriter NT info (A) Basic for Mac LCIII (Q) HFS+ dilemma *New Video Card question [Q] A database solution question [Q] video i/o for g3 -third party availability of greyscale displays Desperately seeking LaserWriter II NT info DiskCopy .smi files Experience with Office 98 on Slow PPC Macs? Geoprt Express Modem Info-Mac Digest V16 #86 Info-Mac Digest V16 #87 Jim Leitch's Address Book organization OS 8.1 memory leak? OTPPP troubles Powerprint 4 & DEClasers (& lack of response from Infowave) RE: Results of Slow PPC/Office 98 Poll Running other operating systems on Macs Sound turned off TidBITS Turns Eight user parameter list???? 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We'd also like to thank AOL for the main Info-Mac machine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Info-Mac Digest V16 #90" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:02:30 -0800 From: Helen Rousseau Subject: Re-seeking LaserWriter NT info >Paul wrote > Lucky me! I managed to acquire a brain-dead (doesn't respond to >input) LaserWriter II NT a few weeks back. I'd love to try and get it >running again, but I need a few items before I can begin diagnosing the >illness. I'd like some sort of documentation (user's manual, service >manual, info on common modes of failure), and I need a paper cartridge, >and most likely toner, too. I've worn out Yahoo! and AltaVista searching > >for clues on this boat anchor, but thought I'd try the list before >giving >up. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks! My favorite garage sale purchase is an old LaserWriter (Circa 1985) (77 lbs) I was able to get a manual, cable and another small part from Sun Remarketing. 1-800-821-3221 and URL is http://www.sunrem.com/. Have been using the printer for two years now and have no trouble getting the toner cartridge at Frie's in the LA area. Helen hrousseau@macconnect.com ------------------------------ Date: 14 Apr 98 22:29:05 -0400 From: "D. Scott Beach" Subject: (A) Basic for Mac LCIII >Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:32:57 +0100 >From: adrian strack >Subject: Basic for Mac LCIII > >I would like to write (again) BASIC to draw rather complicated graphics on >the screen and for the printer. I have no time to start studying Inside >Macintosh. Is there a Version that is still supported? Adrian Strack Chipmunk Basic (3.2.8 is the version I have) is freeware from Ronald H. Nicholson, Jr., . It's probably in the Info_mac archive somewhere. --------------------------------------------------------- D. Scott Beach, sbeach@front.net A rabid Mac dude in Toronto. --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:45:24 -0400 From: abrody@smart.net Subject: (Q) HFS+ dilemma Dear Digest readers, Before I even think about getting a G3, I want to find out one thing. Can a G3 machine be attached to an APS drive formatted with Powertools 4.1 under MacOS 8.0? I heard about some incompatibilities that either make it impossible for an HFS drive to see the data on an HFS+ drive, or vice versa. Now which is it? If it is impossible for an HFS+ drive to see an HFS drive, then I am in trouble. Without some form of a free formatter that works on an APS drive to upgrade to HFS+ I won't be able to read my data when I go to a G3. Please tell me this isn't so. Anybody have experiences? If my applications are on my external APS drive, will the Open/Save dialog box be able to see data saved on my internal drive, when the internal is HFS+, and the external is HFS? Or if the applications are on an HFS+ internal drive, and I try to open data on an HFS external drive will the dialog box be able to do it? Also will CDs burnt with Toast software while still using MacOS 8.0 and HFS be readable in a G3 that has MacOS 8.1 and HFS+? These are all experiments I wish I could conduct, but I don't want to risk losing any data. Please reply directly to my e-mail address below. Thank you. Sincerely, abrody@smart.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 98 22:57:00 -0400 From: Benjamin J Conable Subject: *New Video Card question I have a Performa 6116CD. In attempting to expand to multiple monitors I found that no-one makes a video card for this machine anymore. I was informed by the Vintage Parts Dept. at Radius that if I could find a nubus adapter for the pds slot in my machine they would be able to supply me with a range of choices in video upgrade cards. Aparently this adapter turns the card on its side so it fits in the pizza box of my computer. Is there a source for this part? Is there a better place to ask this hardware related question? The reason I want to extend the life of this machine is that I am considering a Newer G3 CPU upgrade and don't feel it is worth it if I can't have increased ease of use through high resolutions and multiple monitors. Does anyone have any opinions about these Newer CPUs one way or the other, or know about any hidden (to me and my relative inexperience) drawbacks to putting a new engine in an old car? Thanks in advance for your help. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 98 17:03:43 -0700 From: "Brian Wessels" Subject: [Q] A database solution question I have a question about creating a database of information. I'll describe my needs, and ask you to suggest solutions: I'm basically trying to keep a bunch of short articles on a subject for personal use. For each article I want about seven fields of short information (one to ten words) such as Source, Date, Important Points, etc. Then I want one much longer field to enter an abbreviated version of the article, several paragraphs long in most cases. I would like to be able to see all the data in at least the short fields. Printability is not important to me; my goal here is to eliminate the paper. I have tried the database part of ClarisWorks, since I already own it, and found it woefully lacking. I cannot control the width of the paper or the size of my fields, so even the fields of short information are too small to show all their contents. Maybe I'm not understanding ClarisWorks well, and just some instruction here can solve my problem? It seems like I should go with a spreadsheet, but I thought there might be something better out there, like someone's home-grown HyperCard app, for this kind of thing. I would like to avoid spending much money on this. (I'm sure FileMaker Pro is wonderful, and their are lots of great things written for it, but I'm not about to spend that kind of money for personal projects.) Any suggestions are appreciated. ----------------------- Brian Wessels Senior Technical Writer Microtest Enterprise Group | 22 Cotton Road | Nashua NH 03063 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:48:07 -0800 From: "m.c. schraefel" Subject: [Q] video i/o for g3 -third party any recommendations for a video capture card for G3's that do not come with AV built in? - looking for same quality as Apple puts in their AV models (interesting: apple will either let you BUild your own with a 2-d 3-d card OR an audio/video card. ugh) thanks direct email much appreciated -mc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:25:45 -0600 From: Philip Sharman Subject: availability of greyscale displays >Jack Campin < wrote: >> ...Almost >> everything I do with a Mac is in monochrome, and I have never seen a >> colour monitor, at any price, that could match one of Apple's >late-80s >> greyscale monitors for sharpness and general restfulness ... >> Does anybody make comparable new ones? > I agree! A few years ago I managed to get one of the beautiful Apple monochrome portrait monitors (old stock, but never used) from Shreve Systems. I don't see any listed on their web page ( ) but you might want to give them a call. Shreve Systems 1200 Marshall Street, Shreveport, LA 71101. Phone: 1-800-227-3971. Regards, Philip. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:13:12 CDT From: "Tom Kirke (312) 413-5539" Subject: Desperately seeking LaserWriter II NT info > From: Paul Mullen > > Lucky me! I managed to acquire a brain-dead (doesn't respond to > input) LaserWriter II NT a few weeks back... > > ...and most likely toner, too... Apple has a page(1) that gives the toner for the LW IINT as p/n M6002. >From a cross-reference chart that I have, this is equivalent to HP toner p/n 92295A. This toner is readily available and somewhat cheaper than the Apple original. (1) http://imaging.apple.com/printers/pr-supplies-olwp.html#2ntsup tom ------------------------------ Date: 15 Apr 98 09:51:45 -0400 From: Bill Waits Subject: DiskCopy .smi files Does anyone know how to make DiskCopy's Self-Mounted Image (*.smi) files? I have v6.2, and there are no directions that I can tell of to make these = usefull archives. Thanks... Bill ------------------------------ Date: 14 Apr 98 22:36:16 -0400 From: "D. Scott Beach" Subject: Experience with Office 98 on Slow PPC Macs? >I've been watching the Office 98 thread now, but I have yet to see an >answer to my question: can Office 98 run on a slower PPC Mac? > >The MS specs call for a minimum clock speed of 133 MHz (it might a little >higher, but I think this is right). I use a Duo 2300c, which has a 100 >MHz chip. Will Office 98 run on my machine? Should I run Office 98 on >my machine? (RAM isn't a concern.) > >If anyone has experience with installing Office 98 on a wide variety of >machines, please let me know how the slower PPC machines work out. You >can contact me directly, and I'll post the results to the list. > >Eric Rogers >Student, Boston University School of Law >rogersee@bu.edu Eric: I just installed it on an 8100/80. I haven't tried PowerPoint yet, but Word and Excel seem acceptable. Get a second opinion though; it's only been about two days for me. - Scott --------------------------------------------------------- D. Scott Beach, sbeach@front.net A rabid Mac dude in Toronto. --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 98 19:42:06 +0100 From: Ian Burt Subject: Geoprt Express Modem Hi gang, a client has a Power Mac 5500/225, built in Geoport Express Modem, OS 8.0 He is unfamiliar with Macs and has asked me to help him dismiss the "feedback" he gets when anybody phones him on the shared Voice/Data line. I have advised him by phone best as I can but as I am still on a 68K running 7.5.5 and don't have access to the Apple Phone setup,I cannot be 100% sure of my advice being accurate. The local Mac dealers said to unselect "Sound" in the prefs to fix it. It didn't. To rid himself of the noise he has to unplug the modem from the phone jack. Makes me kinda pleased I'm still using 68K to do the same job my colleagues need a PPC for. If it ain't broke don't fix it. But I digress. Any folk out there using a similar set up to my client? If so any idea how to stop the screaming data blast? I seem to recollect reading elsewhere that certain flavour early PPCs couldn't run certain modems. Any ideas? TIA chums, Ian B But you who walk facing the sun,what images drawn on the earth can hold you? mailto:i.burt@netmatters.co.uk http://www.netmatters.co.uk/users/i.burt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:20:24 -0400 (EDT) From: aquapi@mindspring.com (James Stevenson) Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #86 >At 7:27 PM -0600 4/9/98, David Roche wrote: >Hi folks, > >I'm using a PowerBook 1400cs with a 33.6 Megahertz modem, and I currently >use MS Internet Explorer 4. I've noticed that my connect speed doesn't seem >>to be as fast as it should be. >> >>And why is it that even after a web page has completely loaded, when I >scroll through it, the browser window is VERY slow to update, in a very >jerky manner? > >When I browse the web on a much slower Windows based machine at my job, web >pages scroll very smoothly, yet my machine scrolls web pages very >annoyingly slow, even after they've fully loaded. > I must have missed the original posting of this problem, but I hope I can give you some help (if you haven't already solved the problem). First off, definitely upgrade to OpenTransport PPP, then dump Internet Explorer 4.0. It is buggy, and it is considerably slower than IE 3, which you could use instead. Or you might try switching to Netscape Communicator, not that that's much of an advantage. In my opinioon, Microsoft really dropped the ball here. IE 4.0 for Macintosh actually got worse, in terms of speed and stability. Therefore, no matter how much memory you give it, page loading and scrolling proabably can't go any faster. -James Stevenson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 07:45:31 -0400 From: xjcr2@cornell.edu (John Rethorst) Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #87 > Through MacZone, I bought what turns out to be Wordperfect version 3.5.3, > which identifies itself as version 3.5, and MacZone thinks is version 3.5.1. > I downloaded an updater called 3.5e updater from a sumex mirror. And found > out that it only can be applied to 3.5.5. And that I need it for what I do. > > A number of people on the list wrote me saying they had 3.5.5, and had gotten > it in early December. If any Wordperfect users are reading this, I would like > to know WHERE and HOW and WHEN they got the later version. MacZone insists > that it does not exist. I appreciate the help. There's no WP 3.5.5. The successor to 3.5.3 is 3.5e. MacZone is wrong. Call Corel at 800-772-6735. The upgrade, a complete CD, is $25 for 3.5 owners. Run the 3.5e updater on this. That's important, as the patch adds remarkable stability. -- John R. Please delete initial 'x' from email address to reply. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:59:47 -0600 From: Ted Logan Subject: Jim Leitch's Address Book I'm about ready to install Mac OS 8.1 and am remembering earlier messages saying that Jim Leitch's AdBk37Op11 doesn't function correctly past 7.6.1. If anyone has found a good replacement or fix, now that Jim has passed away, please let me know. This may be reason enough for me to keep a disk with 7.5 or 7.6 permanently installed just to run Address Book. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 07:04:34 +0100 From: David Huston Subject: organization Isn't there some way you could number the submissions in your listing so that they could correspond with the separate messages? It is a pain trying to find the right message. Surely I'm not the first person to make this request? David Huston Cleveland, OH dhuston@drfast.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:20:30 -0500 From: Behme Subject: OS 8.1 memory leak? Greetings! I wonder, if anyone out there has experienced this weird phenomenon: Machine: G3/233/96 After working for a few hours (it doesn't seem to matter which programs have been active) everything gets slow like molasses.. scrolling, selecting, etc. While my system generally uses around 13-14Megs, a check under *About this computer* reveals that it has swollen to over 28Megs. A restart will eliminate the problem. Any ideas? Also: A week ago, I had asked about continuing start-up problems with Netscape 4.05 - giving Error messages 1 or 2. According to related reports in MacFixit it seems that the driver software for my Epson Stylus 800 is the culprit. Removing the Epson Launcher extension, which doesn't seem to interfere with printing, has eliminated some of the problems. NS starts and runs - however, at times, it balks at opening a new browser, in which case I quit and replace the preference file with a fresh one, which I keep handy for these situations. Thanks to those who had sent me their suggestions. regards Eckhard Behme ------------------------------ Date: 14 Apr 98 16:14:42 JST From: phv00542@askic.kic.ritsumei.ac.jp (hartmann peter) Subject: OTPPP troubles Can anybody come up with an idea on the oddities I currently experience with OTPPP? I am one of the few lucky people that do not have to pay for every download, since I have had direct internet access at work since I got into first contact with the web. Recently, however, I found I should have access at home, too, so I got myself a modem, a cheap provider and installed and configured OTPPP. Everything went well until I hit the connect button: I dialog came up telling me the selected modem script file could not be found. In fact none of the several dozens of modem files displayed in the pop up menu can be found. I cannot even use one of the modem scripts coming with the original OTPPP package. The whole kaboodle does not even bother to talk to the modem. This of course smells like HD corruption, corrupted desktop DBs or a PRAM problem. I checked, tried and found nothing (Norton, DiskFirstAid, TechToolPro). Extensions conflict? Reduced everything to standard minimal OS 8.1: No change. I guess the message might even be an error message for a completely different error. BTW, I have not the slightest problem connecting with FreePPP 2.6.2. But I still don't have a clue about what is going on with OTPPP. I am using MacOS 8.1, the OT 1.3 coming on the OS 8 CD and installed OTPPP 1.0.1 a couple of weeks after upgrading to 8.1 (are there more recent versions? I could not find a trace of them if there are). Everything is localized for Germany and resides on a UMAX Apus 2000/200 (= PPC/Performa 6500; if I correctly remember, machine type 58). A clue, anybody? Cheers, Peter Hartmann Visiting Scholar Ritsumeikan University Kyoto, Japan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:40:43 +0100 From: Stephen Swabey Subject: Powerprint 4 & DEClasers (& lack of response from Infowave) This is a long history of why I'm not happy with Powerprint 4 and the company which makes it - Infowave. It gets detailed, but if anyone can help me sort out problems with a DEClaser and this software, I'd be very grateful. I bought a copy of Powerprint 4 at the beginning of March because I had just obtained a DEClaser 2200 and I wanted to use it with my Powermac (Umax Apus 2000/180) running OS8.1. The DEClaser has a duplexer, 8Mb of RAM and does 8ppm on a PC, so I hoped to make good use of it with the Mac. However, despite the DEClaser range of printers being listed in the Powerprint manual as supported by Powerprint, I have been unable to get anything readable out of the printer, EXCEPT for a cover page. 1) I used the recommended Canon LBP emulation in Powerprint, with both the LBP-8 Mark III and LBP-4 types of printer available (although it must be the LBP-8 emulation that applies, since the LBP-4 doesn't have the correct number of paper trays listed in the Print dialog.) 2) I selected a cover page to be printed with the document. 3) I tried both Graphics (at the 3 different resolutions) and Draft modes. The cover page always prints correctly, with the details of the print job, but: 1) In Draft mode the printer prints backwards question marks ("?") in bold where the text should be. 2) In Graphics mode a variety of (predominantly non-ASCII) characters are printed at seemingly random locations on the page, but with the characters always printing at the top of the page and usually no further than halfway down. The number of pages printed like this bears no relation to the number of pages in the document being printed. I have checked that: 1) The printer is in Centronics (Parallel interface) mode. 2) That Powerprint will print on other Centronics printers (a Mannesmann Tally MT81) successfully - it will. 3) The DEClaser works correctly (it prints from a PC, it prints test pages correctly AND it prints a cover page from Powerprint, but not anything else). 4) I've followed all the instructions and trouble-shooting exercises in the Powerprint manuals to the letter (including starting with minimal extensions, watching flashing lights on the cable etc. etc.). 5) I've even eliminated the OS as a source of conflict, by installing Powerprint on my LC630 running OS7.5.5. It seems there is something strange going on when Powerprint tries to send a job to the DEClaser. The cover page prints fine and the printer test pages print fine too, so it must be something to do with the emulation I guess. I've tried several other Powerprint emulations to see if Infowave had just mislabeled the correct emulation for a DEClaser, but nothing more readable has ever printed. What really irks me is that I registered electronically with Infowave and then asked for some technical support to sort out what was going on with the DEClaser and Powerprint. I received an automated reply that the question had been received and I "should expect an answer in 2-3 days". That was on the 10th March. I received no reply in a week, so I re-registered just in case they hadn't received the first registration and then tried the question again. Still absolutely no response (not even an email saying the question had been received this time!). I've tried asking the same question once more and had not a peep out of them. So... Has anyone got a DEClaser hooked up to a Mac successfully using Powerprint (version 3 or 4)? What emulation did you use? Were there any things which needed tweaking which aren't obvious from the DEClaser manual or the Powerprint manual? Has anyone else experienced such poor support from Infowave? Are they going bust and not admitting it on their website? (Might explain why they're not answering technical support). Any help gratefully received. - Stephen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 19:18:38 -0500 From: "WISE, DENNIS V. (JSC-SP)" (by way of Subject: RE: > I recently bought a Toshiba 32x CD-Rom drive (XM-6201). The only problem > is that I cannot find a recent driver. I have an old one that works but, I > cannot play audio CDs. Neither Apple's CD player, nor CD ROM Toolkit's CD > players work Toshiba hasn't posted a Mac driver in years. Any suggestions > ?? > TIA, > e-mail: dennis.v.wise1@jsc.nasa.gov ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:50:27 -0500 From: Eric Rogers Subject: Results of Slow PPC/Office 98 Poll I've heard back from 6 people. Despite the small sample, no one has reported any problems. Office 98 was reported as working well on the following systems: 7200/80 8100/80 (2 machines) Duo 2300/100 6100/80 Powerbook 520 w/ a 117 MHz 603e chip upgrade The users who have experience with multiple systems reported that there was a noticeable speed difference between the 200+ MHz systems and the 80 - 100 MHz systems. All users reported significant speed gains in Word 98 over Word 6. One person pointed out that I got Microsoft's recommended speed wrong. Evidently MS recommends a 120 MHz chip or higher. If anyone has differing information, please post it to the list. Thanks to all who participated. Eric Rogers rogersee@bu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:40:00 +0100 From: David Nelson Subject: Running other operating systems on Macs I would like to put another operating system on my PowerBook 5300c (just for fun, and to show my PC friends that Macs are more than just toys.) Does anyone know of anything that will work on my PowerBook? If at all possible, I do not want to make Unix partitions or anything like that. I would prefer something I can run using the existing file system. As far as I know, Be OS doesn't work on the PowerBoook 5300, and the various types of Linux I've seen all require partitions. Basically, I'm looking for something that runs kind of like an emulator without buying Virtual PC or SoftWindows. Any suggestions? _______________________________________________________________________ David Nelson dn15@geocities.com lnelson@pacinfo.com _______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:52:36 -0700 From: Ross Subject: Sound turned off Paul Brians wrote of sound problems with CD's on his G3. Once in a while my G3 will simply decide to reset the sound levels to zero on its own. I reset and it will eventually zero them out. Don't have a clue as to why. 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To subscribe, send email to . cheers ... -Adam -- Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Publisher ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:44:15 -0400 From: graetz@mail.creativeonline.com (Mary F. Graetzer) Subject: user parameter list???? Recently, I"ve started getting Error message -50 when trying to open certain applications. I looked it up in a book and it said "paramErr....error in user parameter list." This might as well be written in Greek for all it means to me. Can anybody help???? What does this mean? And, most importantly, is there anything I can do to correct this situation?????? -------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest-- End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************