Subject: Info-Mac Digest V17 #137 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Thu, 31 Aug 00 Volume 17 : Issue 137 Today's Topics: [*] TidBITS#545/28-Aug-00 (Q) Displaying HTML Formatted Messages 7100 won't start reply [*] Pitbull for Hotline 1.0.1 [*] Sigma Chess 5.0 Lite PPC - free PowerMac chess program with 3D board [*] SweetMail 1.8.4ef4 [A] G3 Powerbook and external monitor resolution problem [A] Power Mcintosh 720075? -- and GURU [A] Power Mcintosh 720075? and GURU [GRR] Bloody PowerBook Power Mgmt! [Q] Appletalk resetting to other connection mode Boot off a FireWire HD? cd drive-disks not showing up discontinued software downloading IE 5.0 Eudora is a bust Info-Mac Digest V17 #136 Info-Mac Digest V17 #136 internal 56K modem for PB G3 Q: 7100 won't start Redirect snapshots? Why Use A Mac?? 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Topics: MailBITS/28-Aug-00 Poll Results: (Apple) Pie in the Sky BookBITS: Mac OS 9: The Missing Manual Bossing Your Mac with PlainTalk [Archived as /info-mac/per/tb/tidbits-545.etx; 31K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:34:33 -0400 From: "Edward W. Ver Hoef" To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: (Q) Displaying HTML Formatted Messages I must have inadvertently changed some setting in my browser (Netscape 4.7r) which I also use as my email application and I can't figure out how to reset it. The situation is this: When I download the Info-Mac digest, the individual messages do not show up in-line in the document. Instead there are references to them. In order to read one, I have to click on its icon and select "Save image as ..". A similar thing happened when I received the latest Apple newsletter, i.e., there was only an icon. When I followed the above procedure I got a message saying "You appear to be using an email application that won't properly display the graphical (or HTML) version of our newsletter." How can I reset Netscape to accept and properly display HTML formatted email? I can't believe that a browser is incapable of doing so. Thanks in advance for any help anyone can offer. Ed Ver Hoef ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 03:01:18 +0000 From: KJ Aanestad To: mailto: Subject: 7100 won't start reply Same exact thing happened to a 6115CD and it turned out to be the battery. Give it a go. Hope this helps. KJ Aanestad ----------- Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:09:20 +0100 From: Roland Whitehead To: Info-Mac Subject: Q: 7100 won't start MIME-Version: 1.0 I have a 7100/66 that won't start. Pressing the power key on the keyboard or the power button at the back right of the main box just results in a click - the power light comes on on the keyboard and the indicator on the box gets power but almost immediately power is shut of and the Mac won't go any further - it won't even get to the start-up chime. The Mac was fine, it just suddenly shut down last Friday and now it won't start. PRAM battery is still showing 3.6v so should be fine - is about 2 years old. Before I rip it apart, has anyone seen this before and was there a solution? Roland Whitehead ------------------------------ Date: 29 Aug 2000 From: Macron To: Subject: [*] Pitbull for Hotline 1.0.1 Pitbull is distributed as $7,- (US) shareware. Pitbull is a simple but powerful download-only client used to retrieve files from Hotline servers. Pitbull can automatically recover from virtually any connection problem that can occur during a file download without any user interference. And thanks to its enhanced partial file support, you can resume any partial download you started without having to remember from what server you were downloading it, or what login name or password you were using. Like the proverbial ÓpitbullÔ, once it puts its ÓteethÔ into a file, it will not stop until the download is complete or until you call it off. There are three ways you can start download a file with Pitbull: 1. You can use PitbullØs built-in download dialog to logon to a Hotline server, browse its files, and select the file that you want to download. 2. Pitbull can also handle special web links that enable you to download a file directly from a webpage, much like conventional file downloads. An example of a website that is currently offering Pitbull web links in their Hotline file search engine is www.hlsearch.com. 3. And last but not least, HotFind (a personal Hotline file search application available at http://www.tracker-tracker.com/hotfind) now has embedded Pitbull support, allowing Pitbull to also automatically download the results of a search from HotFind. Changes in version 1.0.1 -Fixed the link to the online order page -Fixed a bug in the short cuts when running on a 68k Macintosh. [Archived as /info-mac/comm/inet/pitbull-for-hotline-101.hqx; 1489 K] ------------------------------ Date: 29 Aug 2000 From: "Richard A. Fowell" To: Subject: [*] Sigma Chess 5.0 Lite PPC - free PowerMac chess program with 3D board SigmaChess 5.0 Lite PPC is a free master-strength chess program for PowerMacs (Those with 68K Macs, or System 7.0/7.1, should use SigmaChess 4.02 Lite) SigmaChess has won many awards (see www.sigmachess.com). It has a 3D rendered piece set, and will annotate your games and print them out in two-column format in figurine notation with embedded diagrams. Some of the many new features in 5.0: - Now PowerMac (only) - SigmaChess 4.02 is 68K code - 3-4 times faster - should be 100 rating points stronger now - Now defeats Crafty & Screamer 3:1 in matches by umpired by ExaChess - Now compatible with ExaChess chess umpire for computer-computer play - More piece sets - More levels and time controls - Multiple chess engines - can play chess against you while analyzing other games in the background - More robust PGN/EPD import for loading chess games from the Internet - Faster, more capable chess database features for organizing your games [Archived as /info-mac/game/brd/sigma-chess-50.hqx; 2873 K] ------------------------------ Date: 31 Aug 2000 From: sweet@kagi.com (S.Ichise) To: Subject: [*] SweetMail 1.8.4ef4 SweetMail is an internet e-mail client for Macintosh that provides most powerful features with sweet interface. SweetMail has multiple POP3 accounts, very high-speed searching, filtering, templates, and many useful functions. System Requirements: * System 7.5 or later. * 2MB of Memory. * OpenTransport, Thread-Mgr and Appearance-Mgr. [Archived as /info-mac/comm/inet/mail/sweet-mail-184-f4.hqx; 954 K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:01:49 -0400 From: Ken Laskey To: digest@info-mac.org, Monib Subject: [A] G3 Powerbook and external monitor resolution problem I don't know the whole answer but I suspect it has to do with the Monitors control panel and whether resolution choices are set to Recommended or All. I wonder also whether it is in any way connected to my previous post about my Appletalk configuration changing when I use my Powerbook with different outside world connections. Do you see the problem when you have moved between using the Powerbook with its own screen vs. being plugged in to the external? ========== Dear Gurus, hoping someone can help me with the following dilemma: I have a G3 Powerbook (bronze) which I connect to a 19" DELL P991 monitor. On random occasions, the number of available resolutions on my control strip changes. Sometimes it lets me run 1152 x 870 (at millions of colour) however most times it only shows the standard 640, 800, 600, 1024 and 1960 resolutions, but nothing inbetween them. I have no idea what is going on with it. Sometimes I'll be running it at 1152, then after waking it from sleep it just pops the res back to 1024 and 1152 is not even available on the control stip anymore. The Powerbook has 8mb of VRAM and can run a 19" screen at 1152 (because I have done it many times) but there seems to be no rhyme or reason why sometimes the resolutions are availabe and sometimes they are not. I have tried the following: - update ATI drivers - update display drivers - zap PRAM - start mac first, then monitor and vice versa If anyone can help with this I would be most grateful. Thanks, Monib ========== -- Ken Laskey kenneth.j.laskey@saic.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 11:49:17 -0400 From: Ken Laskey To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: [A] Power Mcintosh 720075? -- and GURU Duh, sorry. I was looking at the 7500. Anyway, I think we've demonstrated the usefulness og Guru. ============ Subject: To: Info-Mac Digest Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN At 7:59 pm -0400 8/23/00, kenneth.j.laskey@saic.com wrote: >As a direct answer to your question, GURU has a 7200/100 but not a 75 >Mhz version. At 5:12 pm -0400 8/25/00, Mike Craymer wrote: >I have a PowerMac 7200/90. I just checked GURU v2.9. It lists Power Macs 7200/75, 7200/90, and 7200/120. -- Mike Craymer mike@craymer.com ============ -- Ken Laskey kenneth.j.laskey@saic.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 11:47:20 -0400 From: Ken Laskey To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: [A] Power Mcintosh 720075? and GURU Duh, sorry. I was looking at the 7500. Anyway, I think this all proves the usefulness of GURU. ======= At 7:59 pm -0400 8/23/00, kenneth.j.laskey@saic.com wrote: >As a direct answer to your question, GURU has a 7200/100 but not a 75 >Mhz version. At 5:12 pm -0400 8/25/00, Mike Craymer wrote: >I have a PowerMac 7200/90. I just checked GURU v2.9. It lists Power Macs 7200/75, 7200/90, and 7200/120. -- Mike Craymer mike@craymer.com ========= -- **************************************************************** * Ken Laskey * * SAIC M/S 2-6-9 phone: 703-676-4940 * * 1710 SAIC Drive fax: 703-676-5323 * * McLean, VA 22102 * * //////////////////////////////////////////////* * //Note new street name effective April 7, 2000* **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 01:06:49 -0400 From: Allan Hunter To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: [GRR] Bloody PowerBook Power Mgmt! One month after I obtained my WallStreet PowerBook, it lost its ability to acquire electricity from the wall socket, recognizing only the battery, which shortly went the way of all batteries that don't get recharge-juice, and I had to put it in the shop, a miserable excursion into the grey world of authorized repair from which my new toy did not emerge for another complete month. Today I find myself in the opposite situation: it knows AC when it sees it (from the other side of the little power converter at least) but knows not its battery. This is admittedly decidedly less of a bummer than the first go-around, since mostly I am close to an electrical outlet, and I could, at least theoretically, continue like this indefinitely. But why the hell isn't it able to boot and/or stay booted when I unplug it and force it to use the battery? a) Yes, I see four green dots when I press the button. It is fully charged. b) Yeah, just for the heck of it, I ran Apple's PB G3 Battery Reset and zeroed it out. It quickly recharged. c) The PowerBook knows when it has the battery in a bay, either bay. The little charge icon in the menu bar comes up showing a fully charged battery. If I pull it from the bay it is replaced by an empty battery icon with an X through it. d) Yeah, I reset the power management thingie using fn-Ctrl-Shift-Powerkey. Many times. The green light lights at the base of the screen when I do that. But it won't boot if I unplug it from the A/C. No chime, no HD spin-up, NOTHING. If I yank the cord after boot (and it shows that it sees a fully charged battery in the bay), instant death, like yanking the power cord from a desktop Mac. I have heard recurrent rumors that the original problem was due to a bad solder that was endemic among WallStreet 300s, that the motherboard-to-powermgmt thingumabob had a tendency to lose its connectivity. Do the symptoms I describe sound reminiscent of any recurrent design-glitch phenomena that any of y'all have heard of? I am not in dire straits. I don't boot on the subway and no longer ride the LIRR, so absence of battery-enabled boot is merely annoying in the extreme. But it's a PowerBook. It is supposed to work without an available plug-in! -- Allan Hunter ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 11:55:34 -0400 From: Ken Laskey To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: [Q] Appletalk resetting to other connection mode I carry my Powerbook (with OS 8.6) with me and use Location Manager to set me up for home, office, or whatever. I also use Eudora and have it automatically check mail every 15 minutes. My problem is that the Appletalk sometimes changes my configuration so that, for example, my Ethernet configuration no longer is set to connect via Ethernet but instead through the modem port. This happens when I use my computer without specifically changing to my a location and may or may not be connected to processing email. Any idea what's happening and how to prevent it? TIA, Ken -- Ken Laskey kenneth.j.laskey@saic.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:16:34 -0700 From: Dave Del Torto To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: Boot off a FireWire HD? FireWire Questions: I'm running OS 8.6 on a PowerBook G3 (the original "Wallstreet" G3 from late 1998). A couple of months ago, my original 8 GB internal HD died, so I upgraded to a new Toshiba 12 GB model. Unfortunately, I screwed up when I formatted it, and ended up with a 12 GB HFS drive with blocksizes that make it act like an 8 GB drive again (doh!). When I re-do it real soon now, does anyone have any suggestions? I was thinking of going with HFS+ and two partitions, one 8 GB and one 4 GB, but never having used an HFS+ format, I'm not sure the partitioning is even necessary. Anyway, I needed to get a backup HD (DAT is way too slow), so I'm thinking of buying a FireWire PCMCIA card and a FireWire hard disk (30 GB ought to do it and the prices just dropped on the units that will be available in a week). Questions: 1. I've found a FireWire adapter for around $110 from Western Digital. Does anyone know of any lower priced cards? 2. Does anyone know if these FireWire cards are Type II cards? Sales reps haven't been very definitive on this. The Wallstreet has two PCMCIA slots, the lower one holds the Type II DVD decoder card, leaving room for one other Type II card. 2a. Macally (Mac only) 2b. Newer Tech (Mac only) 2c. Orange Micro (PC/Mac) 2d. Western Digital (PC/Mac) Looking at them so far, 2d is $110 and works on both platforms, which could come in handy later. If anyone has one of these, please let me know what you think. 3. Can I boot off a FireWire HD? I want to install MacOS 9 and start migrating software, but I can't do what I need to if I can't boot off the FireWire drive. If I can't then I have to bag this dream and go with a much more expensive SCSI HD, which would suck because i then couldn't also benefit from all the cool stuff one can do with a FireWire dingus. Thanks for your collective wisdom, dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 07:39:41 -0400 From: "Mann, Susan" To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: cd drive-disks not showing up i have a powerbook g3 os 8.5 with an internal cd drive-everytime i put a cd in it i get error message disk is unreadable-do you want to initialize i tried to put the system software in it to reinstall the software for the cd drive-but that won't show up either i thought maybe there might be something internally wrong in there-because for a while there if i pushed in the cd rom door,it would connect and i would see the cd-but not anymore ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:12:03 +0900 From: Ruth South McCreery To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: discontinued software I am seeking a Mac version of Print Shop Deluxe. Does anyone know of a source of outdated, orphaned, or discontinued Mac software? A disabled friend who has difficulty writing is very attached to using this program to make greeting cards, but her copy has mysteriously died. (We are on different sides of the world, so I cannot poke at her G3 Mac and try to revive it. I am sure if she had the installation disks, she would reinstall.) Broderbund has sold the program to Mattel, which no longer provides a Mac version. They did very nicely send my friend the Windows version, but . . . I did find a place called Software & Stuff that had Print Shop Deluxe in their list of Mac software. Unfortunately, it turns out that their site is very disorganized; half the stuff in the Mac list is actually Windows software, including Print Shop. Are there other sites that deal in surplus, discontinued, etc. software? My friend is sufficiently distressed that she is thinking of getting a Windows machine, just to run that program. A far better solution than coping with the eccentricities of Windowns, it seems to me, would be to learn another program that has the same functions. So, as an alternative, can anyone suggest a program that has card-making functions similar to those of Print Shop? Ruth S. McCreery rsm@gol.com The Word Works t: +81-(0)45-314-9324 f: +81-(0)45-316-4409 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 13:05:45 -0400 From: joanruth@earthlink.net To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: downloading IE 5.0 It has been recommended that I download IE. 5.0 in order to be able to activate the glash player plug-in. I have a Mac performa6360 Power PC and have been unable to receive Blue Mountain and other cards with sound and pictures. How do I download I E 5.0? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 06:59:26 -0400 From: Chazzz To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: Eudora is a bust After reading abrody's comments on Eudora, I decided to try it out. So much so that I went to the paid version. What a mistake. Where shall I begin-----, 1: UGLY GUI 2: Non-intuitive 3: One crash after another 4: Poorly written help manual 5: Doesn't work with PopChar 6: cryptic 7: --did I mention UGLY GUI? OK, so beauty doesn't transfer to a good mail app, but it reallt strains the eye to look at it and work in it for any length of time. Microsloth is not a bad email client, but IE is not so good. I've gravitated to old faithful Communicator. The newest version renders pages faster and it comes with an------email program built in. If Eudora is the STATE of the art, I'm moving tomorrow. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 01:57:14 +0100 From: tpomurchu@eircom.net ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tom=E1s?= O Murchu) To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: Info-Mac Digest V17 #136 Hi All I'm still looking for software for modem Supraexpress 33.6 Any ideas Tom Tomas O Murchu Kilkenny. Ireland tpom@eircom.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 01:29:03 +0100 From: tpomurchu@eircom.net ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tom=E1s?= O Murchu) To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: Info-Mac Digest V17 #136 Hi All I'm actually looking for software for modem Supraexpress 288 not as requested earlier supraexpress 288 some info at http://www.google.com/search?q=supraexpress+288&btnG=Google+Search but I cant download Tom Tomas O Murchu Kilkenny. Ireland tpom@eircom.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 16:07:21 +0200 From: Paolo Bartoli To: Info Mac Subject: internal 56K modem for PB G3 I'm looking for a source where to buy a used internal 56K modem for the PB G3. Any suggestion? -- ** Arch. Paolo Bartoli / pbartoli@iname.com / bpxmb@tin.it ** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 20:18:53 -0600 From: Robert Zimmerman To: Roland Whitehead , Info-Mac Subject: Q: 7100 won't start Replace the PRAM battery. Just because it is producing enough volts doesn't mean it is pushing enough electrons out. This should solve your problem. zimmie At 04:09 PM +0100 8/28/00, Roland Whitehead allegedly wrote: I have a 7100/66 that won't start. Pressing the power key on the keyboard or the power button at the back right of the main box just results in a click - the power light comes on on the keyboard and the indicator on the box gets power but almost immediately power is shut of and the Mac won't go any further - it won't even get to the start-up chime. The Mac was fine, it just suddenly shut down last Friday and now it won't start. PRAM battery is still showing 3.6v so should be fine - is about 2 years old. Before I rip it apart, has anyone seen this before and was there a solution? Roland Whitehead ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:20:11 -0400 From: Vincent Cayenne To: The Info-Mac Network Subject: Redirect snapshots? I often use the snapshot feature (CMD-SHFT-3 or -4) to grab network trouble-shooting info, configuration details, etc. The resultant files (named "Picture 1", "Picture 2" and so on) are placed at the root of my startup disk. This NOT where I want them to go - is there any way to specify a default folder? -- --- 'tis as said. [Reality is defined by being described] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:11:35 -0400 From: tcs@technologist.com (TCS) To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: Why Use A Mac?? On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, another Mackie wrote: > It's understandable that an IT dept might get a little annoyed with Macs > because PCs do have a slight edge in terms of networking and that's the big > issue with IT guys. Gee, I think it's a lot easier to add a Mac to a Windows NT network, than it is to add a PC. Lor -------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest-- End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************