Subject: Info-Mac Digest V17 #93 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Mon, 05 Jun 00 Volume 17 : Issue 93 Today's Topics: [*] Biorythms 8 [*] BitMapmusic 1.6 [*] CatFinder 2.1.4 [*] CatFinder 2.1.4 68K [*] CDFinder 2.8 [*] HAX1R3.HQX - A scenario for Realmz [*] Power Windows 2.4.1 [*] Sherlock Plugins 1.7 [*] Software & Hardware Tracker 3.5 [*] SPOOKYcons4 [*] TypeWell Mc 4.1 [*] Version 1.2 of Beyond All Date [*] Window Manager 2.2 [*] YP Circulaire 1.0.2 (physics simulation software, french version) [*] YP Circular 1.0.2 (physics simulation software) [Q] PB G3 - Centris connection? [R] Eudora and attachments Big Hard Drive for Duo 270c? Eudora and attachments HP Multifunction Printer Info-Mac Digest V17 #91 Info-Mac Digest V17 #91 Info-Mac Digest V17 #91 Zip and Jazz Zip Drive (R) The Info-Mac Network is a volunteer organization that publishes the Info-Mac Digest and operates the Info-Mac Archive, a large network of FTP sites containing gigabytes of freely distributable Macintosh software. Working with the Info-Mac Digest: * To submit articles to the digest, email . * To subscribe, send email to with the words subscribe info-mac in the message. * To unsubscribe, send email to with the words unsubscribe info-mac in the message. * To change your address, unsubscribe from the old address, then subscribe from the new address. * Please send administrative queries to . Downloading and Submitting Files from the Info-Mac Archive: * A full list of Info-Mac mirror sites is available at: * Search the archive via the MIT HyperArchive at: . * To submit files for the archive, email the binhexed file with a description to . 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Requires: Mac OS 8.0 (other users should continue to use version 6.1c) Shareware $15 (c) Hiatus 1992-2000 [Archived as /info-mac/app/biorythms-8.hqx; 1903 K] ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jun 2000 From: "Kurt Kaufman" To: Subject: [*] BitMapmusic 1.6 BitMapMusic is a free music notation program, suitable for writing a few lines of music. It's good for those situations where you don't want to be bothered with anything much more complicated than "click and drag". That said, I don't think that this is the tool for your next symphony.... :-) Printed output, while limited to the screen resolution, is reasonable enough to read comfortably. BMM can also export to PICT and JPEG format, making it a useful tool for Music-As-Graphics and display on the web. This is the PPC-native version of BitMapMusic 1.6. A 68k version is also available. Version 1.6 adds the ability to produce JPEG files. BitMapMusic ¨ 2000 by Kurt Kaufman http://www2.50megs.com/kkaufman/ kurtkaufman@hotmail.com Minimum System requirements (PPC version): * System 7 with QuickTime installed * PPC 601 processor [Archived as /info-mac/gst/snd/bitmap-music-16-ppc.hqx; 834 K] ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jun 2000 From: "Keith Turner" To: Subject: [*] CatFinder 2.1.4 CatFinder is a powerful disk management tool that catalogs your disks and provides an intuitive Finder-like interface for browsing the catalogs. Floppies, hard disks, CD ROMs, any disk can be cataloged. Once a disk is cataloged you can quickly and easily browse it's contents without having the disk mounted. CatFinder also offers powerful find and report features that will help you find and organize your files. Version 2.1.4 adds support for Stuffit version 5 archives and a native PPC format. [Archived as /info-mac/disk/cat-finder-214.hqx; 378 K] ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jun 2000 From: "Keith Turner" To: Subject: [*] CatFinder 2.1.4 68K This is the 68K version of CatFinder. CatFinder is a powerful disk management tool that catalogs your disks and provides an intuitive Finder-like interface for browsing the catalogs. Floppies, hard disks, CD ROMs, any disk can be cataloged. Once a disk is cataloged you can quickly and easily browse it's contents without having the disk mounted. CatFinder also offers powerful find and report features that will help you find and organize your files. Version 2.1.4 adds support for Stuffit version 5 archives and a native PPC format. [Archived as /info-mac/disk/cat-finder-214-68k.hqx; 348 K] ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jun 2000 From: "Norbert M. Doerner" To: Subject: [*] CDFinder 2.8 CDFinder is a very fast and powerful tool to create catalog files of your hard disks, floppies, ZIP's and anything else that spins. It has a great user interface and very useful search functions. CDFinder supports drag&drop and requires at least a 68020 or PowerPC CPU. While System 7 is required, CDFinder is also fully compatible to MacOS 9. A special feature is the multi-lingual user interface (German/French/English/Italian/Swedish/Chinese). New features in CDFinder 2.8: - CDFinder can now import existing catalog files of CatFinder and Disk Tracker 1.x. - .zip archive files can be scanned. - Apple Installer (Tome) archive files can be scanned. CDFinder is the only cataloger to do that! - A new setup assistant helps first-time users. - With help of the third-party extension "Audio CD Labeller", CDFinder can now catalog the names of audio CDs. - A number of smaller features and bug-fixes are included, too. Contact: Norbert M. Doerner Mozartstr. 16 64546 Moerfelden-Walldorf Germany [Archived as /info-mac/data/cd-finder-28.hqx; 1187 K] ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jun 2000 From: boru@rainbowdragon.com To: Subject: [*] HAX1R3.HQX - A scenario for Realmz Welcome to Hax, a scenario for Realmz! ¨1999,2000 John Rawlins Hax is a role playing adventure scenario for the popular Macintosh shareware game Realmz. You have come to the Madwood in search of the elusive town of Hax. It is said the town is overflowing with precious gems that impart tremendous powers. Many a brave soul has sought to open a trade route to Hax. Will you dare find success, where they found naught but an unmarked grave? Version 1.3 fixes several monolithic bugs. Hax 1.3 has been built to run with Realmz version 7.0.9. You may have differing degrees of success if you run this scenario on a different version of Realmz. System requirements for Hax are exactly the same as Realmz system requirements, to wit: Realmz requires a Macintosh capable of at least 256 Colors, 5 Meg free RAM minimum and a display capable of 640 x 480 resolution or better. It does NOT work with the old Apple 12" monitors or some laptop monitors that have a display resolution less than 640 x 480 in size. You will also need 800K of hard disk space for temporary files during game play. This space will be returned to you when you quit Realmz. If you encounter an error during the start of a new game, check to make sure you have at least 800K of hard disk space free. Each saved game will also require from 300 - 800K of hard drive space depending on the size of the scenario. Hax costs $10 to register. You can play about half the game for free, then you need to register if you want to continue. Hax can only be played on registered copies of Realmz. PS - It's fine to include Hax on the Info-Mac CD-ROMs. John Rawlins [Archived as /info-mac/game/adv/rlmz/hax-13.hqx; 1350 K] ------------------------------ Date: 4 Jun 2000 From: Greg Landweber To: Subject: [*] Power Windows 2.4.1 Power Windows 2.4.1 (31 May 2000) by Greg Landweber, author of Kaleidoscope, Aaron, SmoothType, and Greg's Browser Power Windows is a small control panel that taps into your Mac's unused processor power to perform amazingly cool effects with windows and menus. Power Windows was originally conceived to let you drag the entire contents of windows instead of just a dotted outline. It offers both solid and translucent window dragging, and you can even enable multitasking with solid dragging. Power Windows also has options for fading Finder windows (in place of the zoom rectangle animation), fading menus, and as of version 2.4, translucent menus! Version 2.4.1 is a maintenance release, which adds support for translucent menus in Appearance Themes, as well as fixing conflicts with TitlePop and SwitchBack. Power Windows is shareware, with a registration fee of $10.-- -- Greg Landweber greg@kaleidoscope.net [Archived as /info-mac/gui/power-windows-241.hqx; 111 K] ------------------------------ Date: 3 Jun 2000 From: Lars Bell To: Subject: [*] Sherlock Plugins 1.7 The newest collection of Sherlock Plugins. If you use our sherlock plugins you will find what you are looking for on the net 100% of the time. If you don't go to www.sherlockplugins.com/guarantee.html and we will look for you. [Archived as /info-mac/cfg/sherlock-plugins-17.hqx; 260 K] ------------------------------ Date: 4 Jun 2000 From: DXoft Technical Support To: Subject: [*] Software & Hardware Tracker 3.5 Software & Hardware Tracker 3.5 by DXoft June 3rd, 2000. Version 3.5 of Software & Hardware Tracker is now available. Main changes in version 3.5: - Corrected a bug in the Workstation Model field validation options. - Cleaned up a lot of scripts' "messages". - Added fields to the Product, Purchase and License Trackers to let version 3.5 export records compatible with the new Software & Hardware Tracker 4 file format. - The source of the issue affecting Purchase IDs' calculations has now been identified and is now listed as a "known issue". It's fixed in the upcoming Software & Hardware Tracker 4. All Software & Hardware Tracker 3.x users should download and install this free update. ## About Software & Hardware Tracker ## A CNET/Download.com "Premiere" and "Top Pick" and a BizProWeb "Pick of the Day", Software & Hardware Tracker is a collection of FileMaker Pro 3.0/4.0 relational database which will help you collect, store and organize useful information (such as registration codes, serial numbers, product notes, etc.) about all your computer products (hardware and software). Relying on the standard Internet Config system, Software & Hardware Tracker is perfectly integrated with your other Internet software. It also keeps track of all your contact information for software and hardware developers, distributors and places of purchase, turning it into a powerful contact and Internet bookmark manager. Software & Hardware Tracker 3 is compatible with FileMaker Pro 5 once converted to the new version's file format. The conversion happens automatically when one opens Software & Hardware Tracker using FileMaker Pro 5 or later. Software & Hardware Tracker is being distributed as shareware. Several registration and upgrade options are available. Registrations are handled by Kagi Shareware. [Archived as /info-mac/data/soft-hard-tracker-35.hqx; 2695 K] ------------------------------ Date: 3 Jun 2000 From: nmjb@mindspring.com To: Subject: [*] SPOOKYcons4 HI! Here's a set of Icons that could'nt wait for Halloween!!..Actually I have a new e-mail address and wanted to keep up to date..There FREE!so spread them around and enjoy!..Send me a note,tell me what you think..John Beckwith [Archived as /info-mac/gui/icon/spooky-cons-4.hqx; 275 K] ------------------------------ Date: 3 Jun 2000 From: "Wm. Rogers" To: Subject: [*] TypeWell Mc 4.1 WinType_Mc is a touch typing tutor that can be used for regular typing or the special Dvorak typing. TypeWell_Mc is a great program for adults or children who want to improve their typing speed and accuracy. The program comes with a spelling checker, user-defined speed goals, score sheets, time tracking with rest signals, and many other helpful features. You can get the registered version of the program by mail or by email. Note to school site-license seekers: There is also a Windows version (WinTypeWell) available that can be ordered together with TypeWell_Mc for a single price. Wm. Rogers, Ph.D. Practical Press [Archived as /info-mac/edu/type-well-mc-41.hqx; 471 K] ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jun 2000 From: Michael Rathmann To: Subject: [*] Version 1.2 of Beyond All Date Version 1.2 of Beyond All Date is now available. Beyond All Date is an incredible flexible calendar which includes holidays, moon phases, sun set and rise and a lot more information. Use alarms to remind you of important meetings, birthdays, events. Use a well designed task list to keep track of all your important activities. Beyond All Date allows you to specify repeatable and recurring events to handle any kind of appointments. Use Beyond All Date's AppleScript functionality to better suit it for your personal needs. Minimal configuration to install Beyond All Date Power PC Macintosh computer System 7.5 or higher 32 MB RAM [Archived as /info-mac/app/time/beyond-all-date-12.hqx; 2214 K] ------------------------------ Date: 3 Jun 2000 From: John Rethorst To: Subject: [*] Window Manager 2.2 Stack, tile or set/restore custom arrangements of any or all applications, to any part of the screen. Make and name any number of sets of which windows of what applications go where. Switch by keystroke or menu. New in this version: * Custom stacking and tiling areas are now set by matching the bounds of the front window, rather than numerical specification, providing an order of magnitude increase in speed and elegance. * New command to set/restore custom arrangements for any specific application. * Spacing of tiled windows matches the window definitions of different Mac OS versions. [Archived as /info-mac/gui/window-manager-22.hqx; 200 K] ------------------------------ Date: 3 Jun 2000 From: Yves Pelletier To: Subject: [*] YP Circulaire 1.0.2 (physics simulation software, french version) This is the french version of YP Circular. YP Circular is a physics simulation program for the Macintosh. It simulates an object in uniform circular motion and/or an object in simple harmonic motion. Both motions (circular and harmonic) may be animated simultaneously to show that the uniform circular motion is a combination of two simple harmonic motions. Physics teachers use YP Circular to show that the velocity is tangent to the circle and that the centripetal acceleration is directed toward the center of the circle, in a uniform circular motion. Physics students using YP Circular should get a better understanding of the meaning of the following concepts: vector, component of a vector, position, velocity, acceleration. New in this version: Revised documentation and some minor aesthetic changes (new Finder icon, etc.). Yves Pelletier Logiciels de physique: http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ch865/ Physics software: http://www.kagi.com/pelletier Progressive rock CD's: http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ch865/progCDs.html [Archived as /info-mac/sci/yp-circulaire-102-fr.hqx; 261 K] ------------------------------ Date: 3 Jun 2000 From: Yves Pelletier To: Subject: [*] YP Circular 1.0.2 (physics simulation software) YP Circular is a physics simulation program for the Macintosh. It simulates an object in uniform circular motion and/or an object in simple harmonic motion. Both motions (circular and harmonic) may be animated simultaneously to show that the uniform circular motion is a combination of two simple harmonic motions. Physics teachers use YP Circular to show that the velocity is tangent to the circle and that the centripetal acceleration is directed toward the center of the circle, in a uniform circular motion. Physics students using YP Circular should get a better understanding of the meaning of the following concepts: vector, component of a vector, position, velocity, acceleration. New in this version: Revised documentation and some minor aesthetic changes (new Finder icon, etc.). [Archived as /info-mac/sci/yp-circular-102.hqx; 240 K] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 19:08:23 -0400 From: Donald Webb To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: [Q] PB G3 - Centris connection? Sorry for asking what must be a really basic question, but any useful advice may mean I can give my daughter-in-law a Centris 650! First I need to clean up the Centris' internal hard disk, install system 8.5.1, things like that. Problem: I need to connect my PowerBook G3 (OS 8.5.1) to my old Centris 650. It almost connects, but not quite. The Centris is daisy-chained to an Apple external hard disk. SCSI Probe 5.1 opens the hard disk, all right, but the Centris doesn't appear in the dialogue box. There does not seem to be any problem with the connection; when a scanner is connected to the external hard disk, it works fine. Is it a SCSI ID conflict? Too much termination? I'm not sure where to start looking. I once managed to connect to the Centris through the modem port, but that was quite a while ago, and the file transfer was much too slow to be practical. Thanks in advance, Don Webb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 19:06:44 -0400 From: Donald Webb To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: [R] Eudora and attachments Lobo writes about a stall in Eudora: > >*Nearly every time*, I am unable to send attachments using Eudora 4.3.2. > >[...] I then have to do a force quit and restart. To which Christian Buser replies: >Eudora 4.3.2 does a very good job for me and I never hat this >experience. Must be something with your ISP or with your >configuration. Christian may well be right. Like him, I haven't had any problems with attachments in Eudora 4.3.2. However, I have had a lot of connection problems. Advice from my ISP has seemed to help, and, who knows, it may apply to the attachment difficulties as well. Apparently Eudora can encounter memory conflicts with other programs or files -- I don't know which -- and this can prevent a number of things from working. One option is to restart; but rather than take the time I open Mac OS Purge 1.0.1 prior to opening Eudora or logging on. I'm having far fewer problems now. I hope this helps. Don Webb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 17:09:05 -0400 From: "SteveCraft" To: Subject: Big Hard Drive for Duo 270c? The internal 240mb hard drive is just way too small for this system. Can anyone recommend a reseller with a larger HD, hopefully a kit so I can install it myself? Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 15:39:49 +0000 From: Peter Grundy To: Christian F Buser , digest@info-mac.org Subject: Eudora and attachments At 11:17 pm +0200 1/6/00, Christian F Buser scribed: >Eudora 4.3.2 does a very good job for me and I never hat this >experience. Must be something with your ISP or with your >configuration. Hi Christian Thanks for taking time out to reply to my problem. I have a Geoport Telecom (internal, 28800) and come to the conclusion that it is likely to be my ISP (or the modem) and not Eudora. Regards. Peter. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 09:20:49 -0400 From: Tom Fortmann To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: HP Multifunction Printer I have long wanted an HP Multifunction Printer (printer, scanner, copier, & fax) but they never worked on Macs. Recently the R80/R60/R40 models appeared in the MacConnection catalog. I called various HP numbers and found one person who thought the R80 would work on a Mac and two others who swore that no HP multifunction devices are Mac-compatible. Then I called MacConnection and they told me it's discontinued. CompUSA also says it's discontinued, but they have a few left in stores and I'm tempted to buy one and try it. Does anyone know what's going on, why this model is discontinued, and whether it's any good? Tom Fortmann ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 21:25:53 -0400 From: Saint John To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: Info-Mac Digest V17 #91 At 20:31 -0400 5/31/00, The Info-Mac Network wrote: >Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 18:29:39 +0000 >From: me@none.co.uk (Lobo) >To: comp-sys-mac-digest@moderators.isc.org >Subject: Eudora and attachments > >*Nearly every time*, I am unable to send attachments using Eudora 4.3.2. >The most recent time was an attachment of 2MB but the little pendulum stops >swinging and the screen freezes. I then have to do a force quit and >restart. Occasionally it will send an attachment, but it is UNRELIABLE. I >have tried attachment of 512k and 250k but no joy. I use Eudora incessantly, and the only time I have trouble sending and receiving attachments is to/from an AOL user. For real ISPs, the process flows smooth as silk. Some setting somewhere is awry; it may also be an extension conflict. Try first with a minimal extension set and see if that fixes the problem. Also, try several different encoding schemes-- such as MIME, AppleSingle, BinHex, and UUencode. (They're in the third popup menu in the upper left of the message window.) +- Saint John -+ +- All my money goes for child support... INNER child support. ------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 15:28:58 -0500 From: Mike Calmus To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: Info-Mac Digest V17 #91 It did not work for me using Netscape 4.7 but it did work fine using IE 5 for Mac which is technically the only Mac browser claiming to fully support cascading style sheets. It may also work on Netscape 6, but I didn't try. You wrote: >Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 15:36:47 -0400 >From: "abrody@smart.net" >To: digest@info-mac.org >Subject: a page that loads on PC browsers but not on Mac browsers > >Dear Digest readers, >Well somebody here wanted to build a b2b page, but what's really >interesting is that the stylesheet loads the right table column on >top of the inner right table column, blocking its view. >http://www.directoris.i12.com/ > >If you load this same page on Netscape & Internet Explorer on the PC >it doesn't do that, but it does do that on both Mac web browsers. >It looks like Gates & Barksdale owe us an explanation why they are >coding the way stylesheets are read differently in their browsers on >the Mac side from those on the PC side. I suggest that anyone with >any input into the development of both browsers make sure that >stylesheets load consistently across platforms. > >If your web browser doesn't give you problems, and you are on the Mac >side, please let me know. Because here is what I got when I loaded >it: > >http://www.index-site.com/image.gif > >I made a screen capture here showing the problems with this webpage. > >Sincerely, >abrody@smart.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 21:26:46 -0400 From: Saint John To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: Info-Mac Digest V17 #91 At 20:31 -0400 5/31/00, The Info-Mac Network wrote: >Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 22:16:22 -0400 >From: "abrody@smart.net" >To: digest@info-mac.org >Subject: (Q) lost hard disk space > >Dear Digest readers, >Oh I am aware of the block/byte scenario on hard disks, but is that >all there is to explain why hard drives from major manufacturers are >losing up to 7% of their space every time they are formatted? A number of reasons: [1] Actual lost space. For some completely insane reason, manufacturers like to (or at least used to like to) format their drives in round numbers. So a drive with 22.1 Mb of space would be formatted as 20 Mb. If you used a decent formatter and partitioner, which in those days meant FWB Hard Disk Toolkit or similar, you could regain that lost space. [2] Bad sectors. Drives keep a list of sectors that shouldn't even be handed to the OS. Further, the OS keeps a list, too. I believe they consider different things to be "errors," and I may be completely wrong-- but this bleeds off sectors, even on new disks. [3] The volume table of contents and other housekeeping storage areas. This is probably the biggest space-stealer. The more space you have on a disk, the more space you need to keep track of it. [4] The trash. Files aren't deleted immediately, but marked for later deletion-- which takes place when you Empty Trash. Mac people do this a lot more often than Windows people, I've noticed. [5] Invisible files. TheFindByContentFolder, Shutdown Check, OpenFolderListDF, DesktopPrinters DF, Desktop DB, Desktop DF, and such proprietary files as Virex SpeedScan all take up space. Reformatting the disk will get some of this back (especially the optional files, such as the FindByContent stuff). On a 100 Mb Zip disk, I almost always get 94.7 Mb of usable space. +- Saint John -+ +- All my money goes for child support... INNER child support. ------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 12:28:54 -0400 From: Allan Hunter To: norm@helix.nih.gov Subject: Zip and Jazz At 8:31 PM -0400 6/2/00, norm@helix.gov wrote: >Hi, >Anyone using both Zip and Jazz? I currently have my Performa using a >Zip drive and have bought a Jazz 1m drive. I would like to use both >together, at least chained together. Until I can get the Jazz up, I >need things on the Zip. Can anyone explain the procedure for putting >them both onto the Performa? Simple instructions please! Thanks in >advance. > Any Mac old enough to be a Performa is using the SCSI versions of Zip and Jaz drive, so these instructions assume SCSI. You daisy-chain the devices. The cable that came with the Zip goes from computer to Zip. You need a SCSI cable that will go from the other port on the back of the Zip to the Jaz and I *think* the cable that comes with the Jaz will fit the empty port on the back of the Zip. Iomega uses nonstandard SCSI ports-- Everyone else uses those big 50-pin Centronix connectors for external peripheral devices, and therefore with almost all other peripheral devices you connect your first device with a DB-25 to Centronix 50 cable (which usually ships with the device), and to daisy-chain all other devices you use a 50-pin Centronix to 50-pin Centronix cable (and your closet collects lots of DB25-to-Centronix-50 cables because all devices ship with them and not the 50-to-50 cables). An Iomega Zip drive comes with its own DB25-to-DB25 cable, and the second port on the back is ALSO a DB25. I have never owned an Iomega Jaz (I owned an offbrand Jaz that used standard ports) but I've seen them in passing, and if I recall correctly, they have a cable attached to the Jaz at one end and intended for connecting to the computer on the other, in other words, the end that DOESN'T go into the Jaz is a DB-25. That's perfect if that's what you've got; you just connect it to the other port on the back of the Zip. [If for some reason this isn't so, disconnect the Zip from your computer and bring Zip, Jaz, and the cables they came with to a computer supply store and tell them you need some combination of adapters and cables that will let you daisy-chain them.] Once the devices are daisy-chaines, you need to set the termination and the SCSI IDs. The Zip only lets you choose between 6 and 7. The Jaz can be set to any ID except the one used by the Zip, or 0 (which is your internal hard drive), or the ID of your CDROM drive (which is most likely 3). The easiest choice is to set the Jaz to 7 if the Zip is 6 or vice versa. For termination, there is a slider switch somewhere on the plastic case of the Zip and the Jaz (on/off); the Zip should be OFF and the Jaz should be ON. Once they are hooked up like this and you have the power supplies of both Zip and Jaz hooked up and so on, boot your Performa and you should have both drives working concurrently with no problem. -- Allan Hunter ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 17:53:51 +0200 From: Christian F Buser To: Chuck Hooker Subject: Zip Drive (R) At Thu, 01 Jun 2000 09:42:49 +0000, Chuck Hooker wrote: >We have an extra internal Iomega Zip drive that could start doing some >needed work as an external drive. Does anyone have a suggestion on >locating a surplus external housing, with the needed connectors, etc., >without paying a ransom to Iomega? You can easily take an enclosure of a defunct CD-ROM drive or so and put the Zip drive into. You need some mounting brackets to "bridge" the gap between 5.25" (CD-ROM) and 3.5" (Zip drive), as well as a front cover. These items should be readily available in your electronics or computer store. Of course, these instructions apply only if the Zip is a SCSI device. I have no experience what you could do with IDE connected devices. Best wishes, Christian. -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Look at Wenn nicht jetzt, wann dann? (Petra Kelly) -------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest-- End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************